PS: This is honestly getting unreal, but regarding the movie Fireproof, of which I have specifically commented little so far, this will be a comment with substance...
Fireproof - first, it was clear to both my husband and I that Catherine was not saved at the beginning of the movie. Her behavior was clearly that of an unsaved woman. So expecting her to obey 1 Peter 3:1-2 before salvation is ridiculous. The natural man cannot subject himself to the things of God. (If anyone thinks she was saved, which we do not, she was clearly in sin. If the movie claimed her as a Christian, which we do not recall, she was clearly a CINO. Unsaved woman.)
As for Caleb, it was also clear he wasn't saved at the beginning, either. Therefore he was unable to love his wife like Christ loves the church (Eph 5), view his wife as a coheir in the grace of life and dwell with her in an understanding manner (1 Peter 3:7), or to not be embittered by her (Col 3:19). This is evident by his watching of porn, screaming his wife into a wall (verbal abuse), having a temper problem, neglecting his wife, and pursuing selfish gain. (PS: Elizabeth, as much as you "hated Catherine", I HATED Caleb screaming his wife into a wall, I can't even watch a man do that to a woman in a movie, let alone in real life.)
So we've got two unsaved characters with a terrible marriage, both of whom need the Lord. Their behavior should not shock or upset us.
Caleb gets saved, and does the "dare", but it takes a while for his wife to truly "get it", as she rebuffs his early attempts to show his love. What finally changed her? Caleb's sacrificial action of giving up his boat money for her ailing mother. No we did not see this as a trollop digging for cash who finally "struck gold" and would have happily taken the doctor as the cynical reviewer in E's original post stated (we're not that cynical), but we saw a woman who was genuinely broken by the sacrificial love of her husband. As a result of this, she said she wants to have in her life the same thing that had changed him.
So my husband and I saw that as her point of salvation, though yes we agree that the movie didn't flesh out her confessing her sins. But why did this not bother us? Because we see a movie as a snapshot of time. If given time, "after the movie ended", the lives of the characters would certainly go on, and no doubt, Catherine's character would start showing sanctification. Why the Kendricks didn't show that in the movie, we cannot say, we can't read their minds. But neither my husband or I were upset about it. Because we know that even after salvation, sometimes it takes a while for change to happen in a person.
So that's it. Our take on Fireproof. Perfect movie? No, but then what movie is? Could all of you here at End Time Blog done a better job? That's for you to answer, not us. Should anyone be seeking to draw theology out of movies? No. Read the Bible. So bottom line, the advice to watch all things with discernment, yes, of course, is the reasonable answer.
Finally, my husband absolutely scoffs at the idea that a wife "withholding" CAUSES a man to pursue porn. He said men choose to watch porn all on their own, whether or not a wife "withholds" herself. If we're going to blame a man's porn on a woman for "withholding", then to be fair, let's also blame emotionally unavailable, harsh, and verbally unkind men for turning off their wives. Hm, we don't want to go there, I suspect.
You are a patient soul, Elizabeth, thank you for your graciousness.
This faith-based film from the filmmaking offshoot of Albany, Georgia’s Sherwood Church, goes after the issue of fatherhood and the responsibilities that come with it.
NEW YORK — This faith-based drama is the latest and most ambitious effort from Sherwood Pictures, the filmmaking offshoot of Albany, Georgia’s Sherwood Church. Like their previous independent hits, Facing the Giants and Fireproof, Courageous seems well poised to tap into a theatrical market starved for such fare, with even greater potential for DVD sales.
Another collaboration between brothers Alex (director, co-writer, actor) and Stephen Kendrick (producer, co-writer), the film is set in the small town of Albany and concerns the interactions among four sheriff’s deputies and a Hispanic immigrant desperate for work. The theme — hammered home repeatedly — is fatherhood, and the responsibilities that come with it.
Courageousreveals the duo’s growing expertise as filmmakers with its skillful blending of moving drama, subtle comedy and several impressive action sequences, including a well-staged foot chase and a harrowing shootout between the cops and bad guys.
The characters are complex and well-drawn, struggling with various personal issues that test their faith and character in believable ways. But the episodic and frequently melodramatic storyline contains enough incidents and subplots to fill an entire television season. A key story element -- involving the male characters pledging to sign a “resolution” affirming their fatherly duties and their faith in God — seems both artificial and a cribbing from the “Love Dare” featured so prominently in Fireproof.
The performances are effective all around with director Kendrick quite moving in the central role of Adam, the veteran officer, who suffers a horrific family tragedy that sets much of the film’s plot in motion.
Non-Christian audiences may be put off by the endless proselytizing on display, which feels more drawn out and overt here than in the church’s previous films. But the generous laughter, cheers and applause generated by the crowd at an opening day screening demonstrate that these enterprising Baptist filmmakers clearly know their audience.
Opened Sept. 30 (TriStar Pictures)
Production company: Sherwood Pictures.
Cast: Alex Kendrick, Ken Bevel, Ben Davies, Kevin Downes, T.C. Stallings, Rusty Martin.
Director: Alex Kendrick.
Screenwriters: Alex Kendrick, Stephen Kendrick.
Producer: Stephen Kendrick.
Executive producers: Michael Catt, Jim McBride.
Director of photography: Bob Scott.
Editors: Bill Ebel, Steve Hullfish, Alex Kendrick.
Production designer: Darian Corley.
Music: Mark Willard.
Rated PG-13, 129 minutes.